SkyWarnTX
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 8:43:32 PM
Never TRUST an OIL COMPANY, FRACKING, PIPELINE or otherwise with your CLEAN WATER AQUAFIER...
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 6:33:49 PM
Now fer god ol' teafertwo. Talk about "bait and switch"! LOL, teafertwo is the grand Poobah.
In what was an obvious struggle to answer the question, what does this story about a texas community's well going dry have to do with energy, oil or gas?
Teafertwo goes off and links three stories that have absolutely NOTHING to do with the question posed.
There was no mention that these misguided water managers sold water to hydraulic fracing companies.
teafertwo then cries "connect the dots"! To where?
Perhaps to he FACT that gas production uses minute amounts of water compared the average family of four???
Or to livestock consumption???
Here's a little information on water use from hydrogeologist David Yoxtheimer of Penn State's Marcellus Center for Outreach and Research. It gives the withdrawals more context: Of the 9.5 BILLION gallons of water used daily in Pennsylvania, natural gas development consumes 1.9 million gallons a day; livestock use 62 million gallons a day; mining, 96 million gallons a day; and industry, 770 million gallons of water a day.
Does teafertwo bother to calculate the percentages? Nah, so I'll do the calculations for teafertwo, it is 0.02%, that's two-tenths of one percent.
The claims that gas production is going to use all the water up is ridiculous. And further evident of the lack of perspective that oil and gas haters bring to the argument.
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md11capt
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 11:38:31 AM
Spicewood? The article said Spicewood Beach.
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blupupher
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 10:14:50 AM
So a company was selling water to companies to truck to other (residential) customers, and then their well ran dry so the stopped.
How is this news?
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 9:42:34 AM
Just a little history on Lake Travis for those that care to hear the truth.
Lake Travis Water Level - 1951
Date
Average Water Level
1951-December
622.97 feet (-58.03)
1951-November
623.18 feet (-57.82)
1951-October
623.13 feet (-57.87)
1951-September
620.32 feet (-60.68)
1951-August
615.29 feet (-65.71)
1951-July
615.66 feet (-65.34)
1951-June
616.74 feet (-64.26)
1951-May
618.17 feet (-62.83)
1951-April
622.62 feet (-58.38)
1951-March
622.93 feet (-58.07)
1951-February
621.28 feet (-59.72)
1951-January
625.28 feet (-55.72)
You see, the truth is that Texas has and always will go through drought periods. During those droughts wells do go dry. But the extremists will always neglect to look back at history to put todays issues in context. It is their distortion of the facts that is very dangerous in today's politically charged world.
They'll call you a liar when you have differing opinion because they have no concrete argument to put forth.
Not much different from the witch hunts of the past is it?
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 9:29:47 AM
LOL, some people just cannot fathom the truth. A poster below types these lies.
Lie #1:
"The "TRUTH" is that the water company sold this community dry and sent all it's water to a fracking driller"
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Where does this article or any other source claim the water was sold for hydraulic fracturing?
Lie #2:
"Check out the photo of Lake Travis today in this article fm the largest newspaper in TX"
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The Austin American Statesman is NOT the largest newspaper in Texas.
Highest Circulation Texas Newspapers
Newspaper Circulation City
Dallas Morning News 409,642 Dallas/Fort Worth
Houston Chronicle 369,710 Houston
African-American News & Issues (race & ethnic) 312,818 Houston
Fort Worth Star-Telegram 189,795 Dallas/Fort Worth
San Antonio Express-News 137,514 San Antonio
Austin American-Statesman 119,885 Austin
Just the facts folks, just the facts. :=}
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 3:03:04 AM
BIG OIL & GAS love us
Fascinating.
Did someone ask "What in the heck does this have to do with energy, gas or oil??? "
Where Did Spicewood Beach’s Water Go?
The Countdown Continues: 5 Percent of Texas is Now Drought-Free
Your Guide to Water Issues In Texas
"The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) and the Texas Water Development Board are in charge of regulating water quality. Contamination in Groundwater from human waste is tracked by the Texas Groundwater Protection Committee. Gasoline, diesel, and petroleum products are the most common contaminants."
Report: Colorado fracking to use more water in coming years, but still a small percentage of total posted by drpeppertx
Study: South Texas has enough water for oil boom posted by drpeppertx
"What in the heck does this have to do with energy, gas or oil??? " Try connecting the dots.
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Ahking
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 1:23:10 AM
Hope Spicewood find a way to survive.
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 12:32:17 AM
You and your buds just love to twist and bend the "truth" docp. Who's lying now?
You live in Texas doc. Why didn't you straighten out doggod on his comments about no Spicewood and using Lake Travis instead. Tough to use it when the lake is drying up and down by 55 feet!!!
But you knew that. Hope your Railroad Commissioner, that you're so fond of, can start correcting the bad to worse water situation for all the folks.
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mpg611
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 12:19:19 AM
I feel bad for the thirsty residents of Spicewood. Not good at all.
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bigmoo63
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 11:01:39 PM
And the residents pay the piper. I hope the provider enjoys the spoils of the water transfer. From a drought area, no less. Talk about shortsighted.
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lesndave
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:40:17 PM
how said
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roadrunnin
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:28:46 PM
sad
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GT3186
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 10:06:05 PM
what's that annoying buzzing sound???
Oh, it's only teafortwo...
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 9:02:03 PM
NHLiveFree, where's your source for the "truth". No mention of who the water was sold to in the article.
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 8:46:13 PM
BIG OIL & GAS love us
But, but, but ... the frack sticks have been telling us there is plenty of water.
Surely they wouldn't lie about something that is essential to life like water.
Good thing to know that there is always plenty of water for fracking.
As long as we have our priorities straight. After all, Frackers do give the water back.
With "amendments" no less. A "bonus" for the local community. Frackers way of giving back.
FROM THE ARTICLE:
The situation in Spicewood Beach is a first, but is likely not the only place on the verge of running out of water. The state estimates 13 public water systems will run out of water within the next 180 days, if something doesn't change, Buchele said.
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MINIWINI598
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 8:13:14 PM
Oh my... What next....
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DerHahn
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 8:05:51 PM
those that were selling the water should be the ones paying to have it trucked in for the people that live there.
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esq262
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 7:39:06 PM
Not good news.
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rbrk02
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 7:33:49 PM
Sad situation. Too bad that they expect this situation to worsen. Better resource management would seem to be in order.
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kiosk12y
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 7:09:58 PM
wow.
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IwanFL
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 7:08:01 PM
too bad
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 6:48:33 PM
Check out the photo of Lake Travis today in this article fm the largest newspaper in TX - http://www.statesman.com/news/local/rethinking-water-growing-population-limited-supply-mean-costs-2133212.html
It sure looks more like a spithole at 55 feet below its normal and average water level!
Try running a hose into this puddle and a local resident will cut it off in 2 seconds flat.
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 6:36:06 PM
fm the Texas State Historical Association web site -
SPICEWOOD, TEXAS. Spicewood is a mile north of State Highway 71 and nine miles southeast of Marble Falls in southeastern Burnet County. It was probably named for the spicewood timber on nearby Little Cypress Creek. A post office opened at Spicewood in 1899 with James B. Pangle as postmaster. Nearby communities, such as Corwin, Clover, and Rockvale in southern Burnet County and Haynie Flat in western Travis County, began using the Spicewood post office; as these small communities declined in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, many of their residents turned to Spicewood as the focus of community life."
Try a real web search doggod! You'll find some real maps too!!!
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 6:30:04 PM
The "TRUTH" is that the water company sold this community dry and sent all it's water to a fracking driller doceppertx. Who is holding "the truth" today doc???
ps Did your noted Texas Railroad Commissioner holding the hearing on this water handling fiasco too docp????????
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 5:12:12 PM
What in the heck does this have to do with energy, gas or oil???
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SilverDodge2000
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 4:37:22 PM
That's life, whats the point?
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uglytom
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 3:45:52 PM
Life is unpredictable!
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nikifat
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 3:42:04 PM
agree with furbud
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furbud1957
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 3:28:46 PM
Sad for the town but...how does this effect gas prices?
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Rbsheba
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 3:18:34 PM
agree with Johntxx
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johntxx
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 3:15:22 PM
And this relates to gas buddy how?
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doggod
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 3:08:29 PM
There's something odd about this story. Google Maps doesn't show a place called "Spicewood Beach, TX", and the closest thing it does show is a town called "Spicewood, TX". That town, however, is very close to Lake Travis, a significantly large body of water. If that's the place, you'd think they'd build a pipe to suck water out of the lake.
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